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 Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?

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Pigmen's destiny.
Remove Jump boost and no fall damage for pigmen.
13%
 13% [ 11 ]
Set Nether from Hard to Normal difficulty (Makes pigmen weaker).
35%
 35% [ 30 ]
Remove baby pigmen.
17%
 17% [ 15 ]
Make it random for whether a pigman will be auto-agro.
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 16% [ 14 ]
Do nothing.
19%
 19% [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 86
 

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PostSubject: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-03, 19:15

We've seen some of you nag and some being positive. But we want to know which side is the majority, or in order words, see what you would mostly prefer us to do.

So I've set-up a multi-choice poll to let you decide their destiny.

Note: We will certainly not nerf pigmen back to the absolute normal; they are too easy at that stage.


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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-03, 20:07

I would suggest to do nothing. The nether is a good way to get a role into the economy if you're brave enough and patient enough to challenge it. Nether is one of the best challenges on the server, also one of the best exp sources which would pay for it's difficulty, quartz also make good trades. About pigmen; their look is creepy nether is supposed to be creepy, not some random mobs just hanging out around and greeting you. So, I know most of the members will vote for one of the nerfs cause they're all just scared to go there... "OMG I LOST MY STUFF I HATE THE NETHER", " I NEED NETHER QUARTZ AND CAN'T GO TO NETHER", and so forth. Geez, we need hardcore gaming. With hardcore gaming, we spend more time, get more fun, and get more challenges, also learn to face the truth and not go cry in a corner as some players here do...
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-03, 20:37

I like as it is now. I lost there some good stuff too but I don't cry about it. This makes things like blaze rods and glowstone hard to obtain which means not everybody can go like he/she is going camping in forrest Smile. Instead you must be carrefull and learn not to take best stuff everywhere. If you don't plan face pigmens than don't take armor (or take just iron one) and stone picks are enought to dig thru netherhack. just take crafting table, stack of cobble and sticks and should be perfectly fine mining quartz. If you lucky, you may find underground cave with glowstone in it.
And as MonsterGamingFan said this place should be a challenge. It's hell after all Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-03, 21:45

It should be challenging but i can't even go 5 minutes with full diamond armour and sword without dying. I think zombeh pigs should be a little weaker, right now they seem too over powered
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-04, 02:06

This is the only thing on the server that makes it hardcore, so I'm not going to vote for changes.

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-04, 06:47

I reckon they shouldn't be nerfed all the way to normal, but they are way too overpowered at this stage. Auto Agro and baby pigmen (it makes me drop my head when a baby kills me) should be removed. I guess jumpboost and hard mode make it MGs hardcore location, so they should be kept.
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-04, 12:03

i vote easier cuz i cant last 10mins witout beink killed
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-04, 20:18

I don't think the pigman are a huge issue to be honest.

We do not need the resources of the nether to be extremely easy to obtain for everyone. When all resources become easy to obtain, any sort of economy system in place goes down the tube because everyone has plenty of the supplies which in turn makes less people buy supplies thus bringing the prices down rapidly.

Anyone whom has played an online game with an economy, such as any MMORPG that allows players to buy and sell items whether or not there is a auction house, grand exchange, bazaar, or whatever, knows that when there is little of an item, the price steady goes up, and when there is a massive amount of an item, prices go steadily down.

This is why it is easy for anyone to manipulate an economy.
Economy systems are not hard to figure out.

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-04, 20:37

DodosRevenge5 wrote:
I reckon they shouldn't be nerfed all the way to normal, but they are way too overpowered at this stage. Auto Agro and baby pigmen (it makes me drop my head when a baby kills me) should be removed. I guess jumpboost and hard mode make it MGs hardcore location, so they should be kept.
ffs... Pigmen have no good loot, nor good money prize, why the [BLEEP] would you fight them if they weren't agro? Seriously, this is not a puzzle game, nor a dress up game...
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 00:48

what means agro and nerfed?
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 01:10

I see that many people are voting for them to be weakened. In my opinion, weakening them wouldn't be as much fun or be as good of a challenge. It has come to the point were only the brave, prepared, and well equipped members are gathering many nether resources. If some people are too afraid to go on into the nether, the price is simple. They will not receive anything from the nether for free. Weakening the pigmen would also have a toll on the items. As of right now, nether items are selling great and people like this. But people are entitled too their opinions like me.

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 04:40

Helper wrote:
DodosRevenge5 wrote:
I reckon they shouldn't be nerfed all the way to normal, but they are way too overpowered at this stage. Auto Agro and baby pigmen (it makes me drop my head when a baby kills me) should be removed. I guess jumpboost and hard mode make it MGs hardcore location, so they should be kept.
ffs... Pigmen have no good loot, nor good money prize, why the [BLEEP] would you fight them if they weren't agro? Seriously, this is not a puzzle game, nor a dress up game...
They auto agro everytime I see them!
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 07:07

Duidi11 wrote:
what means agro and nerfed?
Agro means aggressive. In this particular case when pigmens see or hear you they will try to attack you like any other hostile mob. Usually they are passive untill you attack first.
Nerf means in general "reducing" so in this case pigmens can deal less damage or have lesser skills.

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 07:52

I was thinking of choosing the random agro pigman, however I quickly changed my mind and chose doing nothing.
The nether should be difficult, it's the nether for christ sake, it's Hell.
Have you ever heard of a story where someone needs to go through Hell and it was easy?

I think you need to stop whining about the pigmen.
You can get a full diamond armor, a diamond sword and a bow with some arrows for under 200 dollars and if you act smart, so no attacking large groups and mainly no fighting against pigmen in general, and know what you're looking for, quartz or glowstone, it's actually really easy in the Nether.

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 20:03

DodosRevenge5 wrote:
Helper wrote:
DodosRevenge5 wrote:
I reckon they shouldn't be nerfed all the way to normal, but they are way too overpowered at this stage. Auto Agro and baby pigmen (it makes me drop my head when a baby kills me) should be removed. I guess jumpboost and hard mode make it MGs hardcore location, so they should be kept.
ffs... Pigmen have no good loot, nor good money prize, why the [BLEEP] would you fight them if they weren't agro? Seriously, this is not a puzzle game, nor a dress up game...
They auto agro everytime I see them!
You do realize I know quite more about the server than you do...

On-Topic:
Totally agreed with Teh.

I see the most people are voting for them to become weaker... But if you look at the reasons of us, the ones that want to do nothing, you'll see the right choice. Whatever, the major wins, seems like they're getting weakened...
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-05, 20:52

well were back to girl playground nether now -_-
maybe we could make the pigmen a bit less op than before but still strong
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-06, 21:39

typically i tink the nether is HELL. but at the same time i tink it is a good challenge. me and the (teh lol! ) went in there the other day and we were fine ( with the exception of catching fire from time to time:) Neutral this is what i say bro. my opinion not yours. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-10, 10:29

even though it is the nether,which is hell, some mobs should not be too op and aggresive as players who go there to get netherrack,netherquarts,soulsand and other materials might run into a pigman and die quickly,losing their stuff along the way.To be honest,I dont go to the nether so often,but when a pigman attacks me,its veryhard to kill them so that I can carry on with what i am doing,but mostly is dying...unless you are lucky! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-13, 23:16

when will the vote end?
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PostSubject: Simple opinion   2013-04-17, 09:46

I think that the babies are WAY too op cuz with their speed thei still have as much damage as grown pigment witch make them even tougher. So keep all except difficulty and babies, and I,ll be happy Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-18, 16:35

In my opinion, zombie pigmen should even be allowed to FLY. Look at it, you are invading the hell, you get atacked, by who? The hell guardians:

Ghasts ohno
Lava Slimes
Blazes
And pigmen pbj

They are defending their land, if you want resources, it's like a war, get an army and turn their butt into [censored].

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-18, 16:52

The pigmen have already been nerfed.
They do a lot less damage now so it's easier to survive.

Be warned, they are still very lethal.

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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-19, 19:02

Don't weaken the actual pigmen, the are fine! they are the challenge in the nether, but baby pigmen are just too much for me personally. I keep getting jumped by 2 or 3 because their so hard to see.
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-21, 13:28

when will the voting finish?
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PostSubject: Re: Nether + Pigmen, nerfed?   2013-04-28, 13:55

The fate of the nether has been decided and will take place in the next MG Update.

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